Comments on: Le plus ça change… http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/ Just another WordPress blog Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:50:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Daddybean http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/#comment-9473 Daddybean Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:16:23 +0000 http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/#comment-9473 And it has that old staple 'previously unrecognised source of energy, stored at a sub-atomic level within the hydrogen atoms in water'. good ol' hydrogen, it' always seems handy for a bit of secret energy storage. I take your general point here Bob, but really can't take this seroiusly :-) another 'cold fusion' I imagine. And as for the independent scientists (York were paid 15 grand for the tests) checking it this is what Jim Lyons has to say about himself: http://www.scimednet.org/testimonies.htm And they don't seem to have got far since 2003 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/18/ncell18.xml And it has that old staple ‘previously unrecognised source of energy, stored at a sub-atomic level within the hydrogen atoms in water’. good ol’ hydrogen, it’ always seems handy for a bit of secret energy storage.

I take your general point here Bob, but really can’t take this seroiusly :-) another ‘cold fusion’ I imagine.

And as for the independent scientists (York were paid 15 grand for the tests) checking it this is what Jim Lyons has to say about himself:

http://www.scimednet.org/testimonies.htm

And they don’t seem to have got far since 2003

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/05/18/ncell18.xml

]]> By: Bob http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/#comment-9468 Bob Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:42:00 +0000 http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/#comment-9468 I agree it sounds too good to be true, but to be fair they say it turns electricity into more heat. In order to do the chaining together that you suggest you'd need to convert the heat produced by step X back into electricity to use as the power for step X+1. The conversion of heat to power won't be even 100% efficient (unless there's another miracle device somewhere ;) ) in which case at best you're likely to break even i.e. you can add extra steps with no loss of power, rather than adding extra steps increases power. I agree it sounds too good to be true, but to be fair they say it turns electricity into more heat.

In order to do the chaining together that you suggest you’d need to convert the heat produced by step X back into electricity to use as the power for step X+1. The conversion of heat to power won’t be even 100% efficient (unless there’s another miracle device somewhere ;) ) in which case at best you’re likely to break even i.e. you can add extra steps with no loss of power, rather than adding extra steps increases power.

]]> By: Tim http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/#comment-9467 Tim Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:50:48 +0000 http://www.inatthedeepend.org/2007/09/19/le-plus-a-change/#comment-9467 Okay, this thing puts out "up to" (I so love that little piece of meaninglessness) twice the energy put in. And, oh look, it has a "secret catalyst". Probably runs on Kentucky Fried Chicken then. If it works, then the answer is to build a bloody great big one and attach it at the power station end, so that the power station can pump out twice as much power, and then attach another one and so on. That way we will only need one power station and since energy will cost nearly nothing to produce, there won't be any point us spending out on buying these devices for our homes. Okay, this thing puts out “up to” (I so love that little piece of meaninglessness) twice the energy put in. And, oh look, it has a “secret catalyst”. Probably runs on Kentucky Fried Chicken then.

If it works, then the answer is to build a bloody great big one and attach it at the power station end, so that the power station can pump out twice as much power, and then attach another one and so on. That way we will only need one power station and since energy will cost nearly nothing to produce, there won’t be any point us spending out on buying these devices for our homes.

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